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7/5/2013 update: a part of Q&A with KMM
Q. Is Dani older in BURNED
A1. Crimeny, is it really all about sex
Q. Yes. Now answer my question.
A2. Although Dani is 14 at the beginning of BURNED, she does mature by the end of the book. Someone asked if she would be 17. I said possibly.
Q. Will we get anyone else's POV in BURNED
A. Yes. Among others, Mac is back! Which means JZB is, too (but don't expect his POV, LOL.) To those of you who insisted Mac and Barrons would never have let Dublin get iced because they're natural born heroes, therefore they should have been on stage and on page. what did Barrons say "The world can wait. I can't." But seriously, there are reasons you didn't see them in ICED. There are reasons you will see them in BURNED.
Q. Is Ryodan Dani's dad
A. No. No. No.
Q. Is Dani's father relevant
Q. Do you write about pedophiles
A. No. I write about life. I write with verisimilitude. I write about men who look at a 14-year old superhero woman-child (who is also an assassin-where is the moral outrage over that Priorities, the UK would say, get some) and can see the women she will become one day. I write about men who will do anything to keep her alive long enough to become it-even knowing they may never be the one lucky enough to get her. I write about men who know that being gentle and making pleasant requests of a young woman who is stronger, faster, smarter and has more balls than pretty much everyone on the planet would be as effective as trying to chisel a sculpture from stone using feathers. Ryodan never lusts over Dani. Dancer never lusts over Dani. Christian has a few very realistic death-by-sex Fae moments but there is no question he is drawn to her "light'and her 'innocence' not the skull and crossbone panties he glimpses when she is freezing to death that 'charms' him. Not turns him on. Charms him. Do they have hard dicks The 9 and death-by-sex Fae always have hard dicks. The wind blows.They breathe. It's that simple. I was 13 when I first noticed a man looking at me like he wanted to have sex with me. How old were you Although I didn't act on it for a long time after that, I remember to this day being thrilled by it. Exhilarated. I was becoming a woman. Dani is an odd duck: raised by TV she has seen everything the world has to offer but experienced very little of it. She gets the actions, not the emotions. Yet.
Part of what may have been difficult for any readers who felt disturbed by the way I wrote the characters in ICED is this: I have always given my reader a way in to the men, a heroine through which the reader could connect on a sexual and romantic level to the Alpha males I write. ICED is the first book I've written that does not do that. I gave you no mature eyes through which to experience romance (of which there is none yet.) There is no woman in ICED through which you can comfortably lust after my Alphas. Yet. Stay with me. Keep the faith. This made it difficult for some readers who tried to view the Alphas through Dani's vantage and felt an 'ick' factor. Well, stop it! You weren't supposed to do that anyway, LOL.
Added, after a discussion 11/4/2012
From the comment section: Regarding Dani's age
As to her age... Well, a few more years would make me more comfortable, but what is a few years compared to forever It's just there's a limit in our mind from which age and with what age difference sex is appropriate. Even if Dani was 10 years older Ryodan would be millenia older than her. The only thing different would be her maturity, which thanks to the society, world falling apart and her childhood is way ahead our average and what we think of as 14, 15, 16-year-olds (girls into boys, makeup, parties and school). Those few years...It's all in our heads.
Most of the comments people have been making have been in the vein of
A few years could've passed...
It would be easier if Dani was at least 16...
And so on. I'm not saying the hypothetical thought doesn't bother me. It does. But thinking about everything going on... I'm 18 and I've never lived through anything like Dani has( well I did live through a war, protests and stuff, but I was 5 and younger then). I probably have much less life experience than she has. She has been living on her with death around her for 5 years, people. Mac from the first book was probably much more naive and unready for a romantic relationship with a supernatural being. I don't know what a few years would've changed but fit Dani in our view of an Adult and Not jailbait. I don't think it would've changed her much. You can say: when I was 14, I was... My daughter's fifteen and she's not... But, there is a difference in circumstance, Girls used to marry when 14, 15. They had kids. I'm not saying that's ok, now, things are different.
I do understand how and why this is a problem to many (I, too would like to see Dani a bit older before any actual sex scene, so I'm hung up too), I just think we should try to see things from a different POV. Dani's POV. And I still think more people should protest over her SURVIVING ON THE STREETS AND KILLING TO SAVE HERSELF than romance. Are we really so used to that in fiction it doesn't touch us anymore
Each book, no matter how good, bad or indifferent teaches you something. This one showed me I could totally argue with self from a different time. Example:
Me prior to Iced: Dani is just FOURTEEN
Me during Iced:Oh, but this is all soooo cool
Prior: I mean she's a kid, and all the men, some of them immortal fighting over her. That's just wrong
During: Oh, she's so clueless, how sweet. I wonder who'll she fall in love with
During: Who gives a damn, she sounds...cool and none of it is weird.
Prior: I'm not sure I can like this book.
AFTER: This book is awesome
So, other than teaching me to be schizophrenic, "Iced" was just so fun! I thought I'd have a problem adapting to Dani's voice and language and stuff (based on the sliver we got of it in Shadowfever), but I ended up liking her a lot. Yes, she is young and hormonal and so damn stubborn and impulsive, but she's still easy to connect with, somehow. She embraces life like no character I've read about before. She takes everything as it comes and fights for everything she believes in with everything she's got. No half measures with Dani. Also, we see her growing up a bit at a time. Yes, she already has a lot of life experience, but she learns to take care with her words and actions:
"I've always been a speedboat blasting across the whitecaps, thriving on sensation, wind in my hair, salt spray on my face, having the time of my life. Never looking back. Never seeing what happens around or behind me.
These new eyeballs see my wake. They see what I leave behind when I've passed.
Boats capsized. People flailing in the waves."
Did I sometimes get the feeling she's too young for all the violence and the love rectangle Yes, I did. But I found it strange that people didn't worry or that it didn't bug them nearly enough to think about Dan killing and risking her life since the age of 9 than it did to think about men being potentially interested in her.
All I'm going to say is:everything feels right while reading this book. Right and cool and KMM has an amazing gift. Here's something that made me feel a little better about the matter. Christian:
"He sees her like I do: at seventeen, twenty, thirty. Superimposed over the fourteen-year-old, he sees the woman she'll become."
"All the sudden Ryodan's standing one inch away from me, hand under my chin, holding my face up to his. "You'll never be just anything. A tsunami can never be 'just' a wave."
"Get off my chin."
"I like that about you. Waves are banal. Tsunamis reshape the Earth. Under the right circumstances, even entire civilizations."
"You're going to be one hell of a woman one day, Dani."
Yes, that did make me feel better about any potential relationship between Dani and either of them. After a few years, of course. At least until she's 16 or 17 And Dancer... Well, he's 17 kind of geeky, smart, cute and her best friend. That's ok, too.
About the guys. I don't know why, but I expected Ryodan to be like a version of Barrons. Kind of like Barrons 2.0. He's not, really. Yes, the tendencies are there. Manipulative, looking straight ahead, getting what he wants at every cost. But he goes about it differently. He's more polished, looks more human But he's not, really. Anyway, there were a few comparisons made and a few descriptions of him:
"Jericho Barrons is an animal. Pure lawless beast. Not so Ryodan. Dude's a machine."
"Ryodan is like the ocean. He is what he is. And he's not about to change. There's no point in fighting the tide. It ebbs. It flows. You ride it."
Christian... Well, I kind of feel like he's already lost. We saw his POV a few times, and while he still has some human urges and shows flashes of, well, sanity, I grieve for the old Christian. Now, it's like he's wild. And not in a way that felt good to me. Although he genuinely cares for Dani and did some cool things.
Dancer's a boy I would really like in RL. He's just interesting and smart and a great person and friend. And obviously in love with clueless Dani. I swear things just fly over her head. And I'm not annoyed by that. Yay, KMM!
What also flies over her head are innuendos. Seriously, I love those moments. And they makes it more tangible and realistic.
The world kept on spinning and we are now in the world after the Wall came down. Trouble is still brewing, Unseelie still there to be slayed, big, bad WTF monsters out to destroy what's left of the world. I found this interesting. In stories when there's an ending there's always the: what comes after After Shadowfever there was that for me. Not just because of the walls, but everything., And here we have a plausible sequel to the last minute saving of the world. It's still messed up, with problems and dangerous. There are always consequences. And Bad guys don't always go away.
One thing I would've liked: more Mac and Barrons. Really, glimpses are not enough when it comes to these two. Especially the big bad. I have a hunch, though, that we'll be seeing more of them in the next book. There are a lot of threads to be continued, so I can't wait for it to get out!
And finally a few more quotes, snippets of conversations I found the funniest and the most interesting: Ryodan and Dani:
"I'm not sure you could be any more full of yourself."
I cut him a smug look. "I'm willing to try."
"You're faster than me. That means you're supposed to yield right of way."
"Like we're cars. Cute. I don't yield. Ever."
"I can make you feel better than you've ever felt in your life."
"There are some secrets, Dani O'Malley, that you learn only by participating."
(view spoiler)[I don't know why, but I think Ryo is the one, despite Jo and everything. It's just the way Dani reacts and acts with him and he with her. Could be wrong, though. She cares about Dancer, too, to whom I hope nothing bad happens. As I said, just a feeling.
Like the feeling I have that Dani is not just human and Dancer is a lot more than he seems. (hide spoiler)]
Forgot to say: CLIFFHANGER! Not a huge one, but a cliffhanger all the same. Or better said, like someone cut off the power while you were in the middle of the movie. Everything stopped just as you were getting to the great part, and not when the actor was about to die. That kind of cliffhanger. I think. And hope :D
ETA 2.0, because I was saying someone about the scene, and wanted to put it up.
Just one more thing: a scene that literally made me laugh out loud and which showcases Dani's cluelessness in some things. She acts and thinks older than her age most of the time, so this makes it more real.
"It happens when I get really excited. The more excited I get, the more I vibrate."
"Now there's a thought," Lor says.
"If you mean what I think you mean, you want to shut the fuck up and never think it again," Ryodan says.
"Just saying, boss," Lor says. "You can't tell me you didn't think it, too."
I never understand half of what these dudes are talking about and don't care. "You can touch me if you want to," I say to Lor magnanimously. I'm so pumped on adrenaline and excitement that I'm feeling downright sociable. I poke one of my shoulders toward him. "Check me out. It feels really cool."
All heads swivel my way, then they look back at Ryodan.
"He doesn't own my fecking shoulder. Why you looking at him"
From #1 New York Times bestselling author Karen Marie Moning comes the first book in her hotly anticipated new urban paranormal trilogy, set in the world of her blockbuster Fever series.
The year is 1 AWC – After the Wall Crash. The Fae are free and hunting us. It’s a war zone out there, and no two days are alike. I’m Dani O’Malley, the chaos-filled streets of Dublin are my home, and there’s no place I’d rather be.
Dani “Mega” O’Malley plays by her own set of rules – and in a world overrun by Dark Fae, her biggest rule is: Do what it takes to survive. Possessing rare talents and the all-powerful Sword of Light, Dani is more than equipped for the task. In fact, she’s one of the rare humans who can defend themselves against the Unseelie. But now, amid the pandemonium, her greatest gifts have turned into serious liabilities.
Dani’s ex-best friend, MacKayla Lane, wants her dead, the terrifying Unseelie princes have put a price on her head, and Inspector Jayne, the head of the police force, is after her sword and will stop at nothing to get it. What’s more, people are being mysteriously frozen to death all over the city, encased on the spot in sub-zero, icy tableaux.
When Dublin’s most seductive nightclub gets blanketed in hoarfrost, Dani finds herself at the mercy of Ryodan, the club’s ruthless, immortal owner. He needs her quick wit and exceptional skill to figure out what’s freezing Fae and humans dead in their tracks – and Ryodan will do anything to ensure her compliance.
Dodging bullets, fangs, and fists, Dani must strike treacherous bargains and make desperate alliances to save her beloved Dublin – before everything and everyone in it gets iced.